T.T.H. · Nov 17, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19

While having a look at the Taiwanese Guild Wars website ( http://guildwars.nctaiwan.com/ ) I stumbled about the following image, obviously featuring a panda and several ""cryptic letters"" I am not able to read:

Is here any person being able to translate this or any person has some friend who knows somebody who has contact to somebody who can read this?

Thanks & Bye,
T.T.H.

kenichiukiya · Nov 17, 2006, 12:30 PM // 12:30

it reads something like this:

"(Nightfall) Intense! The fight for the Title, Mini pet giveaway."

watever that title is.....just wondering why would you browse the Taiwanese website if you cannot read Chinese

*EDIT: ok this is pissing me off, just had a read about the mini pet thingy on that site. how i wish i'm playing the chinese version >.<. details below:

from 1/11/2006-17/12/2006, 1st person to get any of these titles and register for the "contest" will get a set of 6 mini-pets, including a panda, naga, kanaxai, oni, yeti, and the tree guardian thingy. titles are: Advanced Skill Hunter for Elonian character (180 Elite Skills capped), Prot of Elona, Elonian cartographer(90% map), Elite Skill Hunter for Prop or Factions character (290 Elite Skills capped). the 2nd - 5th person of those titles will get a set of 5 mini pets (no kanaxai).

But oh well it can't be done on English version cuz there're already too many ppl with those titles already =P

Over and out*

Dreikki · Nov 17, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Umm, Taiwaneese people speak Chinese.

Horseman Of War · Nov 17, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

i dont even like minipets and im jealous

T.T.H. · Nov 18, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Why I had been there? Because I installed "font support for east-asian letters" on my Windows and wanted to test if it's working - and I knew Guild Wars has several regional websites that contain plenty "east-asian letters".

What a pitty that those special mini pets are so extremly rare and uber expensive...

Thanks for the translation!

kenichiukiya · Nov 18, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

haha icic.....well no problem mate.

shadowmist · Nov 18, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24

People in Taiwan speak Mandarin and Taiwanese. Taiwanese is a language that came to being when Japan took over Taiwan. Mandarin is the most common (to my knowledge) form of Chinese spoken. Of course, people in Taiwan (older generation) tend to speak Japanese as well, also remnant from the Japanese influence. And as always, there are rural areas where the language isn't exactly the same as the main stream language. Just a quick FYI from someone who's lived in Taiwan for a long time.

I don't think it's fair that only they're getting the mini pets, I want one too! I mean, yeah, they need incentive to buy the game as the asian market has a lot more online games than other areas, but still... I'm gonna bug my cousin to gimme a mini pet if he gets one ^_^

birdfoot · Nov 18, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowmist

People in Taiwan speak Mandarin and Taiwanese. Taiwanese is a language that came to being when Japan took over Taiwan. Mandarin is the most common (to my knowledge) form of Chinese spoken. Of course, people in Taiwan (older generation) tend to speak Japanese as well, also remnant from the Japanese influence. And as always, there are rural areas where the language isn't exactly the same as the main stream language. Just a quick FYI from someone who's lived in Taiwan for a long time.

I don't think it's fair that only they're getting the mini pets, I want one too! I mean, yeah, they need incentive to buy the game as the asian market has a lot more online games than other areas, but still... I'm gonna bug my cousin to gimme a mini pet if he gets one ^_^

Just to clear up abit.

I believe "Taiwanese" (that shadowmist was referring to) is actually a Chinese dialect called Hokkien. This is a common Chinese dialect, alongside others like Cantonese, Teochew, Hakka, and many others. Hokkien in Taiwan may be slightly different (or should I say, more accurate) than Hokkien in other parts of the world as the dialect is usually evolved to become as mix with native languages in other places (as with Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, basically with anywhere Hokkien is spoken).

All Chinese belong to one of the dialect groups, and all the dialects are another form of Mandarin. Mandarin is indeed the common language amongst Chinese.

As Taiwan came under Japanese occupation before, most elderly Taiwanese can speak Japanese. However, Taiwan (compared to other places that are densely populated by Chinese) is under more influence by Japanese trends.

kyrasantae · Nov 18, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Mandarin was chosen/standardized as the official 'Chinese' by the government. It doesn't mean that the other dialects are variants of Mandarin... in fact, linguists argue that the various so-called dialects are so different that it's just politics that make them dialects. I speak Cantonese, which is to Mandarin what Norwegian probably is to Danish; what makes Norwegian and Danish different 'languages' but Cantonese and Mandarin 'dialects' of Chinese?

birdfoot · Nov 19, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyrasantae

Mandarin was chosen/standardized as the official 'Chinese' by the government. It doesn't mean that the other dialects are variants of Mandarin...

Well, if you look back in history, you'll see that even Mandarin was a dialect itself (what we knew as the mother dialect) and all dialects in China had been regional-based, derived primarily from Ancient Chinese (used in the earlier dynasties).

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyrasantae

in fact, linguists argue that the various so-called dialects are so different that it's just politics that make them dialects. I speak Cantonese, which is to Mandarin what Norwegian probably is to Danish; what makes Norwegian and Danish different 'languages' but Cantonese and Mandarin 'dialects' of Chinese?

You're definitely right about the politics stuff, it was neccessary as even Chinese need a common language to understand each other.

Quote:

All Chinese belong to one of the dialect groups, and all the dialects are another form of Mandarin. Mandarin is indeed the common language amongst Chinese.

Ack, perhaps the way I phrased it was kinda confusing. But my point was that all variants including Mandarin are dialects originally (they were equivalents), with Mandarin being chosen as the 'standard' or 'common' language.

nekowong · Nov 21, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Taiwaness Offical Release 50 Panda today (11/21)

So , you will see lots of panda on the market

http://guildwars.nctaiwan.com/event/...t/winList1.asp

M1h4iL · Nov 22, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

^Nice, I wouldn't mind a panda

Nov 17, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19	#1
T.T.H. Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Guild: Wolf Guard [WOLF] Profession: E/Me	any Taiwanese speakers here to translate info on miniature panda? While having a look at the Taiwanese Guild Wars website ( http://guildwars.nctaiwan.com/ ) I stumbled about the following image, obviously featuring a panda and several ""cryptic letters"" I am not able to read: Is here any person being able to translate this or any person has some friend who knows somebody who has contact to somebody who can read this? Thanks & Bye, T.T.H.

Nov 17, 2006, 12:30 PM // 12:30	#2
kenichiukiya Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: Rt/	it reads something like this: "(Nightfall) Intense! The fight for the Title, Mini pet giveaway." watever that title is.....just wondering why would you browse the Taiwanese website if you cannot read Chinese EDIT: ok this is pissing me off, just had a read about the mini pet thingy on that site. how i wish i'm playing the chinese version >.<. details below: from 1/11/2006-17/12/2006, 1st person to get any of these titles and register for the "contest" will get a set of 6 mini-pets, including a panda, naga, kanaxai, oni, yeti, and the tree guardian thingy. titles are: Advanced Skill Hunter for Elonian character (180 Elite Skills capped), Prot of Elona, Elonian cartographer(90% map), Elite Skill Hunter for Prop or Factions character (290 Elite Skills capped). the 2nd - 5th person of those titles will get a set of 5 mini pets (no kanaxai). But oh well it can't be done on English version cuz there're already too many ppl with those titles already =P Over and out Last edited by kenichiukiya; Nov 17, 2006 at 12:41 PM // 12:41..

Nov 17, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43	#3
Dreikki Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kemi, Finland. Guild: Pirates of the Searing [YoHo] Profession: Mo/	Umm, Taiwaneese people speak Chinese.

Nov 17, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#4
Horseman Of War Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: The Cult of Doom Profession: P/	i dont even like minipets and im jealous

Nov 18, 2006, 12:04 AM // 00:04	#5
T.T.H. Academy Page Join Date: May 2006 Location: Germany Guild: Wolf Guard [WOLF] Profession: E/Me	Why I had been there? Because I installed "font support for east-asian letters" on my Windows and wanted to test if it's working - and I knew Guild Wars has several regional websites that contain plenty "east-asian letters". What a pitty that those special mini pets are so extremly rare and uber expensive... Thanks for the translation!

Nov 18, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#6
kenichiukiya Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2006 Profession: Rt/	haha icic.....well no problem mate.

Nov 18, 2006, 10:24 AM // 10:24	#7
shadowmist Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: Sanctity of Shadows Profession: N/Me	People in Taiwan speak Mandarin and Taiwanese. Taiwanese is a language that came to being when Japan took over Taiwan. Mandarin is the most common (to my knowledge) form of Chinese spoken. Of course, people in Taiwan (older generation) tend to speak Japanese as well, also remnant from the Japanese influence. And as always, there are rural areas where the language isn't exactly the same as the main stream language. Just a quick FYI from someone who's lived in Taiwan for a long time. I don't think it's fair that only they're getting the mini pets, I want one too! I mean, yeah, they need incentive to buy the game as the asian market has a lot more online games than other areas, but still... I'm gonna bug my cousin to gimme a mini pet if he gets one ^_^

Nov 18, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58	#9
kyrasantae Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Guild: Echo of Darkness [EOD] Profession: Rt/	Mandarin was chosen/standardized as the official 'Chinese' by the government. It doesn't mean that the other dialects are variants of Mandarin... in fact, linguists argue that the various so-called dialects are so different that it's just politics that make them dialects. I speak Cantonese, which is to Mandarin what Norwegian probably is to Danish; what makes Norwegian and Danish different 'languages' but Cantonese and Mandarin 'dialects' of Chinese?

Nov 21, 2006, 04:21 PM // 16:21	#11
nekowong Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: U.S District Profession: W/A	Taiwaness Offical Release 50 Panda today (11/21) So , you will see lots of panda on the market http://guildwars.nctaiwan.com/event/...t/winList1.asp

Nov 22, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52	#12
M1h4iL Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Perth, Australia	^Nice, I wouldn't mind a panda